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T. MUCHOW
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What is the best, and by best I mean easy casting, and NOT PRONE TO BACKLASHES. I usually use 12lb test for most applications. I have tried many and not liked them, The Vanish from Berkley isnt bad. I didnt care for the Trilene XT, or the stren original. what do you all like the best for backlash free baitcaster line?
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If you don't get an occasional "Professional Overrun", you're not doing it right.

I've always liked Trilene XT and XL. Tried the "Super Lines" and went back to good old mono. Set your cast controls so that you only get an occasional bird's nest, and fish. Even the best pros sometimes get them.

Nature of the beast.

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I usually use the berkley xl or xt,this year I'm going to give Bass Pro Excel prem. mono.its suppose to cast better and I need all the help I can get especially on windy days. I use it in the 8lb test.
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Before we begin talking about line, let's talk a little about your reel, its setup, and casting.

Baitcasters need to be properly setup to avoid backlashes. If you are a beginner to baitcasters the first thing you need to do is turn the magnets all the way up, or ensure all the centrifugal brakes pads are set in the enage position.

Next to the crank handle is a knob called a friction knob. Everytime you change lures you need to adjust this knob. Begin by tightening it up. Then holding the rod level (waist high) engage the clutch bar and slowly losen the friction knob until the lure starts to slowly lower itself to the floor. Reel the lure back up to about a foot from the rod tip and press the clutch bar again. If the lure drops quickly tighten the friction knob a little bit and repeat. If the lure doesn't move losen the friction knob a little and repeat. when properly setup the lure should fall slowly to the floor.

Now let'talk about casting. The biggest mistake most anglers make casting a baitcaster is trying to put too much power in their cast. For a basic overhand cast, keep your elbow close to your side, bend your forearm up towards your shoulder and snap your forearm down until it is level with your elbow (90° angle) and that is all the power you need. Any more and you get the spool spinning faster than the lure is traveling and you end up with either a backlash or an overrun.

The next step is learning to control the spool with your thumb. The hold secret to baitcasting is thumb control. When you cast your thumb is to ride the spool and you are to use your thumb to stop the spool just before your lure touches the water. Fail to do so and you have a backlash or an overrun.

The better you get at thumbing the spool the further you will be able to cast. Why? because you will be able to losen the friction knob more and back off on the magnets or disenage the some of the centrifugal brakes.

Now if your reel is properly setup and you are sure that you are thumbing the spool properly and you are still getting backlashes, the problem is more likely your reel. With some less expensive baitcasters the spool ride on bushings instead of ball bearing, or steel ball bearing instead of stainless steel. What happens is that the spool does not spin freely and more importantly consistently. Sometimes it grabs for a fraction of a second which causes the lure to pull which puts a load on the rod at the same time and when it free itself the lure surges and spins the spool faster than the lure is traveling, thus you get a backlash.

If this is the case, you may be able to improve this situation by applying a graphite based lubricant to the bushing or steel bearing (slick 50). But thumb control will also help to minimize the effect.

Now let's talk about line. If you spool your fishing line on the spool improperly or if you over fill the spool you can cause line twist which can lead to backlashes.

Now, line by itself will not cause you to get a backlash or an overrun. But an line such as Stren easy cast or Berkley Trilene XL will help until you get your thumb trained.


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Craig know what he's talking about, T.M.

No point in using a baitcaster if your main criterion for chosing a line is to avoid backlashes; get a spinning reel instead.

If your reel and your thumb are doing their jobs, Spiderwire braid or PowerPro will make you happy: limp, no stretch, thin, sensitive like you won't believe (and less expensive than mono over time).


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i attempted to use the dark powers of voodoo to rid my reels of any chance of a backlash. it doesnt work. they're right. the only remedy is good line, like the easy cast and also the sensation, lots of thumb experience, patience, and a set of knitting needles or any long, thin metal pick...since you will always always always have the occasional backlash.
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T. MUCHOW
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I am fairly experienced with baitcasters, just know that I have had problems with certain lines, fire line in particular, and just wondered if there are certain lines that are more prone to this and other less prone. I do not get backlashes all that often. I fish exclusively with baitcasters.

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T. MUCHOW
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my fault, I should have titled it "favorite line" for baitcasters. some just cast better, others uhhhhh.

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quote:
Originally posted by T. MUCHOW:
my fault, I should have titled it "favorite line" for baitcasters. some just cast better, others uhhhhh.

Thanks.

T.MUCHOW


TM, please understand that my responses are not directed to a specific member (unless I use their quote), but rather just a general response that I feel may help someone.

Sorry I used your post to put down my soap box, meant no harm.


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Trilene XL here

i also believe it's the user more than the line intself that causes most problems.

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I'm also a Trilene XL & XT user almost exclusively. All I have ever used is baitcasters, never used anything else, so I consider myself fairly proficient and can cast the lightest tubes and 3" weightless worms with one and usually have no problems. BUT,
What causes my problems are trying to get that extra 10 feet out of a cast rather than repositioning my boat. When I give that extra umph to reach a spot, you can just about bet that I'm gonna be cussin! So I try to tell myself to move the boat rather than risk the over run.
Also, I learned many years ago from one of the pro's that if you cast with the reel handle pointing up, in other words rotating the combo 90 degrees, this is supposed to help prevent backlashes as well. Not exactly sure why(probably a friction thing), but it works for me.

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My choice is Stren Magnathin it has smaller dia. per pound than regular stren and it seems to cast better. But I beleve my Shimano helps keep my backlashes to a minimum.
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Gaineso, I have to remeber that it is called.."Professional Overrun", when I am picking it loose. I love that one.

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I have always liked XT and vanish for my baitcaster. It took me a while to get my reel set for the vanish. I put vanish on my fathers baitcaster i got him for Christmas. He has trouble casting far because of his age and the Vanish is denser than mono. Which helps him get twice the distance on his casts because the spool spins easier and faster with the vanish. The look on his face was awsome after his first cast.
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T. MUCHOW
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Craig Baugher, I took no offfense, I totally understand, I should have phrased it better. I did take a little from the post after yours though.

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T.MUCHWOW


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Oops!
Sorry 'bout that T.M. Guess looking outside and seing snow all over the place gets to me. Just re-read and I can see you point.
Nice of you not to shoot me.


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T. MUCHOW
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no problem. The snow here sucks as well in ND. Plus I heard if you go around shooting people all the time, they dont let you fish as much. Have a good one.

T.MUCHOW


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I like Trilene Big Game in 12 & 15 lb tests.

I have a lot of friends that swear by Spider Wire Super Mono in 17 lb test.

I really liked using Fireline on my spinning reels, tried it and removed it from my baitcaster though, just did not like the way it handled, came off the baitcaster.

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"Best Line For A Baitcaster."

You might try, "Hey Millie wanna go fishing, I got a new bassboat."


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T. MUCHOW
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nice!!!!!
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I agree with all Craig said and would only add that some lines do not spool up on the reel as evenly and as nicely as others, therefore the line can make a difference..Most braided (super lines are stiff when you first put them on and will increase your numbers of backlashes until they finally soften up, this is especially true if you are trying for that longer cast..I have found that when you are using these stiffer braids if you wet then down with a product like Reel Magic it will soften them and make them easier to cast with less over runs..There are days when I can fish all day, changing lures/techniques often and never have an over run, then the very next time I go out my first six or so casts will bird nest like you don't want to believe..I still haven't figured out what I am doing different, but I know that it must be something I am doing..Just keep chunking and trying different lines until you find the line that best suits your style of fishing..

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Was a fan of berkley XT and XL for many years, started using Easy Cast on my spinning outfits I now use it for most evertything, except extremely abrasive situations such as draggin' lead through zebra mussel infested waters.

Nothin' wrong with XT & XL just like the Easy Cast better seems limper and good knot strength.

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Doyle,

While I agree with you comment on the stiffness of the FUSION type of superlines (Fireline being the best known), I beg to differ when talking about the true braid superlines such as Spiderwire. The braids would neeed a triple dose of VIAGRA to be half as stiff as most monofilaments

This is one case when limp wins the day!

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the thing with a baitcaster is that it is designed to be thrown on anything from 8 pound line and on up to 25 pound line. if you don't match the rod with the line and the lure weight then it will never cast right!!! you can't throw 8 pound line on a baitcaster if you are using a heavy action rod it just won't work!! and you can't throw 25 pound on a small baitcaster and medium action rod, you'll burn the gears out and probably brake the rod! very simple match the line to your reel and rod then find line that goes with the presentation and your equipment and your in business. BASS ON!
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Originally posted by T. MUCHOW:
What is the best, and by best I mean easy casting, and NOT PRONE TO BACKLASHES. I usually use 12lb test for most applications. I have tried many and not liked them, The Vanish from Berkley isnt bad. I didnt care for the Trilene XT, or the stren original. what do you all like the best for backlash free baitcaster line?
Thanks

T.MUCHOW



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The nice thing about spider wire is that " the profesional overrun's" don't run to far. Louis
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